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Battle# 4: Investment Bankers and Consultants add Little Value to the Real Economy – IIM Bangalore - FOR

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Purvabh Surana

"The crux of .... within a single city like Bangalore the number of consultants and investment Bankers would not be able to match the rest of the working population." How curious -or is it ironic?- that you'd choose to use the very same city that lent its name to the term "Bangalored". Which, in it's very definition refers to low value jobs being transferred to cheaper destinations, in this case Bangalore. While these teeming masses indeed contribute to the consumption, that's not saying a lot, is it? Any human being, in their inherent nature of survival will contribute to consumption. To imply that by simply outnumbering IBs or Consultants, they might "cater" more to the growth of economic indicators sounds just a bit sketchy to us.

28 Aug 2014, 11.53 PM

Ansuman Mishra

"The bank that stands by the policy of being “the banker to every Indian” itself does not advocate the necessity of an MBA graduate. Do you realise the sample size that we would be looking at eventually if we consider IB’s and consultants?" Why the assumption that only MBAs end up as IBs or consultants? The article revolves around the fact that non-MBAs often add more value than MBAs, but in my opinion, that doesn't make any justice to the topic. The business of consultants thrives on the inability of companies to find a sustainable solution to their problems. The sample size of IBs and consultants may be less, but that is what makes value added per consultant very high. And using smaller sample size as an indicator of less value addition hardly makes any sense.

29 Aug 2014, 11.45 AM

Bhanu Putumbaka

I believe the discussion here is not about whether non-MBA or MBA IBs /consultants add more value to the economy. Talking about adding value to the economy, the IBs help in the listing of firms from various sectors, help them in raising capital, in undergoing M&A et al. The contribution of Private investments to the GDP of India is around 23% (2012). How much of this capital is being invested with the help of IBs? Measuring the direct contribution of IBs and consultants to the economy doesn't do justice to their contribution. What about the indirect contribution? How many firms were saved from making bad decisions or even bankruptcy by IBs and consultants? This isn't easy to estimate.

29 Aug 2014, 02.32 PM

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farzyn sheikh

Thank You for your response. Firstly, yes we are trying to look at the impact that IB's or consultants can add to the economy by gauging the impact of the magnitude. We agree that consultants and IB's help the economy to grow.All we are are saying is that in a population of approximately 1.3 billion, what could the MAGNITUDE of the impact of these Consultants and IB's be? Consider the US sub-prime crisis, the consequent impact on the economy and the subsequent Euro zone crisis.Whose decision mattered here? IB's have actually exploited and underestimated the capability of the "invisible hand" of the market. How many good decisions can counter this one single bad decision and to what extent?

30 Aug 2014, 12.44 AM |

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Comments
 

Purvabh Surana

"The crux of .... within a single city like Bangalore the number of consultants and investment Bankers would not be able to match the rest of the working population." How curious -or is it ironic?- that you'd choose to use the very same city that lent its name to the term "Bangalored". Which, in it's very definition refers to low value jobs being transferred to cheaper destinations, in this case Bangalore. While these teeming masses indeed contribute to the consumption, that's not saying a lot, is it? Any human being, in their inherent nature of survival will contribute to consumption. To imply that by simply outnumbering IBs or Consultants, they might "cater" more to the growth of economic indicators sounds just a bit sketchy to us.

28 Aug 2014, 11.53 PM

Ansuman Mishra

"The bank that stands by the policy of being “the banker to every Indian” itself does not advocate the necessity of an MBA graduate. Do you realise the sample size that we would be looking at eventually if we consider IB’s and consultants?" Why the assumption that only MBAs end up as IBs or consultants? The article revolves around the fact that non-MBAs often add more value than MBAs, but in my opinion, that doesn't make any justice to the topic. The business of consultants thrives on the inability of companies to find a sustainable solution to their problems. The sample size of IBs and consultants may be less, but that is what makes value added per consultant very high. And using smaller sample size as an indicator of less value addition hardly makes any sense.

29 Aug 2014, 11.45 AM

Bhanu Putumbaka

I believe the discussion here is not about whether non-MBA or MBA IBs /consultants add more value to the economy. Talking about adding value to the economy, the IBs help in the listing of firms from various sectors, help them in raising capital, in undergoing M&A et al. The contribution of Private investments to the GDP of India is around 23% (2012). How much of this capital is being invested with the help of IBs? Measuring the direct contribution of IBs and consultants to the economy doesn't do justice to their contribution. What about the indirect contribution? How many firms were saved from making bad decisions or even bankruptcy by IBs and consultants? This isn't easy to estimate.

29 Aug 2014, 02.32 PM

+Read Replies (1)

farzyn sheikh

Thank You for your response. Firstly, yes we are trying to look at the impact that IB's or consultants can add to the economy by gauging the impact of the magnitude. We agree that consultants and IB's help the economy to grow.All we are are saying is that in a population of approximately 1.3 billion, what could the MAGNITUDE of the impact of these Consultants and IB's be? Consider the US sub-prime crisis, the consequent impact on the economy and the subsequent Euro zone crisis.Whose decision mattered here? IB's have actually exploited and underestimated the capability of the "invisible hand" of the market. How many good decisions can counter this one single bad decision and to what extent?

30 Aug 2014, 12.44 AM |